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Ammonia crisis - oops!
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#1 Posted : 27 January 2010 00:48:39(UTC)
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This starts off sounding like a post that should be in the tropical section - just bear with me....

I just recently got my new tank set up and am using a Fluval 1+ internal filter that's been running for months in another tank so that I wouldn't have to wait before getting fish in there, my baby keyhole cichlids were long overdue to be taken out of their parent's tank. Eventually when the UGF matures the Fluval will come out again.

I don't have a lot of faith in the internal, so as a precaution tonight I did a quick ammonia test, and EEK I got a reading of about 0.25!!
I immediately started doing a water change by circulating pond water through the tank (my normal water changing process), over 2-3 hours I guess about 30% was changed, tested again and found the ammonia had increased!

Next off, test the pond water. 1.0ppm. Oh dear. I've been quite happily using this to change water in all my tanks, and I've used loads of it over the past week or so. The quality of the pond water has never been a problem before, even nitrate usually tests at virtually zero so it's very rarely I ever test it.

A quick check on all the other tanks showed barely any colouration of the test solution (API kit) which is either a good testimony to the effectiveness of the UGFs in these tanks or an indication that the appearance of ammonia in the pond is very very recent.

Anyway pondies, take this as a warning not to get complacent about water quality at this time of year.

And as for me, I'm looking forward to the pleasant task of dredging for dead toads or badgers or whatever in the morning. Wish me luck.
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#2 Posted : 27 January 2010 11:30:40(UTC)

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Ewwww!!! Good luck with that one.. I suppose it just goes to show how variable even the most "stable" of environments are?!
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#3 Posted : 27 January 2010 12:45:45(UTC)
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........it was a bloody rabbit


and the stench is unbelievable
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#4 Posted : 27 January 2010 13:47:59(UTC)

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Poor bunbun!!
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#5 Posted : 27 January 2010 14:25:49(UTC)
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Poor bunbun my a**e, moronically stupid damn bunbun more like it.

At least that's one less to gobble the petunias and risk getting shot come summer, but it's caused a lot of bother in the meantime!

I'm happy to report that there appears to be an abundance of frogs and toads hibernating at the bottom, all a bit indignant at being disturbed but all very much alive and not rotting away!

Anyway it's really got me goin' on clearing out the pond now and getting rid of dead leaves and other foreign objects. The root systems of the water lillies are very widespread and I've taken them out to trim them as the roots were floating up last year. Good time to get the marginals tidied up too, cut away last year's dead growth and take the baskets out to clear debris away from around them etc.
 Also get all the excess watercress out of the waterfall and other areas the fish can't reach.

Just wish it wasn't such miserable weather for doing it..
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#6 Posted : 27 January 2010 18:57:01(UTC)
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Don't envy you that job in this weather

Did you have ice? I wonder if it fell through
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#7 Posted : 27 January 2010 19:43:12(UTC)
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eeoow!!........... I bet that smelt choice Ferox
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#8 Posted : 27 January 2010 20:03:45(UTC)
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I reckon it probably got in there before the pond iced over and it's been under a foot of ice and snow since then. I would't expect it to have rotted very fast at 4ºC so it must have been there a while, as it was I was only able to identify it through dental records.
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#9 Posted : 28 January 2010 20:39:41(UTC)
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What a shocker. Luckily you found out and got it sorted - very lucky you tested for the amonia.
Good luck with the clean out. I do not envy you that one. Could you not wait till spring?
We 'fished' out a dead mouse from a swimming pool last summer that was bad enough...........................
Latest update 29/4/10 well only got four fish now - 2 syds and 2 B/Ns. All fish are equal.
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#10 Posted : 28 January 2010 22:17:17(UTC)
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36 hours later and the ammonia has gone already, what a terrific filter!

I reckon the mild spell we're having now is as good a time as any to clear out, while the water is still cold so all the dead leaves don't get a chance to start rotting, and before there's any new growth on the plants to get damaged. And I was in there anyway to get rid of the rabbit, strike while the iron's hot.
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#11 Posted : 29 January 2010 20:21:05(UTC)
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Hi is that in the tank or pond? or both?? But good news its sorted. well good luck with the clear out.
Latest update 29/4/10 well only got four fish now - 2 syds and 2 B/Ns. All fish are equal.
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#12 Posted : 29 January 2010 22:34:51(UTC)
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I meant the pond, but the tanks are good too.

Spoke too soon about the mild spell. The pond is now half empty, all the baskets of plants lined up around the edge and the whole lot (pond included) covered in 2-3 inches of fresh snow. Fish are happy enough though, that's what counts.
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#13 Posted : 30 January 2010 21:31:49(UTC)
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Hi yep spoke to soon on that one! No snow here but well chilly! Yep as long as the fish are happy we are happy.
Latest update 29/4/10 well only got four fish now - 2 syds and 2 B/Ns. All fish are equal.
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#14 Posted : 30 January 2010 22:48:33(UTC)
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Can't even see the fish now - out of sight out of mind
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#15 Posted : 01 February 2010 20:23:52(UTC)
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ferox wrote:
Can't even see the fish now - out of sight out of mind

Oh dear. .
Latest update 29/4/10 well only got four fish now - 2 syds and 2 B/Ns. All fish are equal.
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#16 Posted : 08 February 2010 15:21:06(UTC)
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You should have borrowed my rubber gear :-)
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#17 Posted : 08 February 2010 17:35:50(UTC)
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i would take sean up on that offer, ive seen him modeling the said equipment and its very fetching indeed, di
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#18 Posted : 08 February 2010 17:43:32(UTC)
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Got my own rubber gear thank you very much, and I suspect it is probably every bit as fetching as Sean's.
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#19 Posted : 08 February 2010 19:57:07(UTC)
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i think this post is crying out for a "best rubber poser" poll.

I dont doubt it for one min gordon, have to have some proof though, jan really like rubber by the way  di
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#20 Posted : 08 February 2010 20:22:01(UTC)
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Did someone mention RUBBER????????????????
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