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#21 Posted : 16 January 2010 22:34:53(UTC)
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It's the green sandpaper on a roll that I've used before, get a lovely smooth edge with that!

Haven't tried cutting any more glass, but the important thing is the new tank is now set up, running and occupied!
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#22 Posted : 19 January 2010 19:49:00(UTC)
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WHERES THE PHOTOS?????
And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high,saying "Oh Lord, bless this thine hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemys to tiny bits,in thy mercy" and the Lord did grin.And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths,and carp and anchovies,and oranutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu......
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#23 Posted : 19 January 2010 20:27:11(UTC)
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Hi yep that sounds like the stuff? Oh and yep where's the photo's of the new tank - please
Latest update 29/4/10 well only got four fish now - 2 syds and 2 B/Ns. All fish are equal.
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#24 Posted : 19 January 2010 22:52:56(UTC)
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Hardly worth the bother of taking photos really chaps, like all my tanks it's just a functional type fish container in a garden shed rather than a beautifully aquascaped piece of lounge furniture 





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#25 Posted : 19 January 2010 23:04:38(UTC)
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......but here it is anyway.
Clearseal 30*12*15 inches
air driven UGF (mature Fluval1+ in there too until UGF cycles)
Sand substrate with laterite and various green things
24" domestic fluorescent light fitting (£7.50 B&Q clearance bargain)
Labels not yet removed from far side hehe
7 1¼" keyhole cichlids just removed from parents
1 long-armed shrimp on holiday while it's home tank gets treated for snails.

Still planning to put a few rocks and/or wood in there too
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#26 Posted : 22 January 2010 21:26:15(UTC)
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Hi bit like my tanks - not pretty but funcational. Also a quick question how do you keep the U/G clean? Or does it not get too dirty being only along the back?
Also thanks for putting on the photo.
Latest update 29/4/10 well only got four fish now - 2 syds and 2 B/Ns. All fish are equal.
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#27 Posted : 22 January 2010 22:33:17(UTC)
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You saying my tank's not pretty? .. . .

Not sure what you mean by "clean". The filter itself doesn't need any maintenance, I'm sure there'll be a mulm build-up under the filter plate and eventually that's going to have to be cleared but I have one tank that's been going for 2 years with no maintenance at all other than scraping algae off the glass and changing water. I don't even gravel-vac it, the water is perfect and the fish in there are top notch. As long as there is a flow coming out of the uplift pipe you know it's filtering!

The size of the gravel is important, if it's too fine it can be clogged by mulm so there's no water flow. I reckon the gravel in this tank is just right, irregular shaped and average 10mm or so. Also if the gravel is too small the fish can move it. My shelldwellers have removed 50% of the gravel/oyster shell mix in their filter and used it to landscape their tank.  Also got a problem in another tank where the kribs have excavated under bogwood to create a cave and have spat all the sand into the UGF compartment. Going to have to sort that out sometime, but can't now as the kribs are looking after fry and I don't want to disturb them.

Do you see the pipe at the left hand end? That's where the tank is drilled to provide an overflow, the top of that pipe defines the max water depth in the tank. To change water I just pump water straight out of the pond filter outflow into the tank and the excess water drains out through the pipe to be dumped in the garden (until I get my recycling system sorted out properly), this skims any crud off the surface at the same time. I've only got 2 tanks, the smallest ones, that haven't been drilled (yet).

Don't know if I answered you question there James haha
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#28 Posted : 23 January 2010 20:13:37(UTC)
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Hi yes you answered the question fully,as always. I can see how the U/G works better that way than the traditonal type like i use. Also the tank i have them in is very heavily stocked! Certainly a very interesting idea having just a U/G along the back.{better than any internal}.
Latest update 29/4/10 well only got four fish now - 2 syds and 2 B/Ns. All fish are equal.
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#29 Posted : 23 January 2010 21:22:43(UTC)
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The UGF along the back is a terrific idea and I wish I could take credit for thinking of it, but I got the idea from my favourite LFS which has all it's tanks done that way. This way you can have your cake and eat it. All the benefits of a UGF (long term stability, low maintenance, low cost etc etc ) and none of the drawbacks - you can have any substrate you want and be able to grow plants! It does present a few challenges when it comes to landscaping all the same, as it needs to be deeper than a UGF which covers the whole tank base.

Do you have the UGF plate and gravel covering the whole bottom of the tank Stingy? I still have one left like that awaiting "upgrade", that's the tank I said before had been running for 2 years. I don't want to disturb it because my breeding keyholes are very settled in there.
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#30 Posted : 25 January 2010 20:31:22(UTC)
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Hi yes its in my six footer - i have four 35 x 11 U/G plates in there with four uplifts,also i have fine gravel in there - so this tank is really looking at being sorted - two many fish too bigger fish = possible nightmare. My ray tank has only got a thin layer of sand and a couple of external filters and i can clean it in half the time? Also have you 'cut' any more glass yet? Thought i'd better mention that -as we have gone of topic somewhat.
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#31 Posted : 25 January 2010 21:30:07(UTC)
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It's my topic, I'll go off if I want to........

What's your plan for the six-footer when it comes to sorting it? That will be one big job!

.............err, no, haven't tried cutting any more glass yet.
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#32 Posted : 25 January 2010 22:45:58(UTC)

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stingrays4 wrote:
Hi yes its in my six footer - i have four 35 x 11 U/G plates in there with four uplifts,also i have fine gravel in there - so this tank is really looking at being sorted - two many fish too bigger fish = possible nightmare. My ray tank has only got a thin layer of sand and a couple of external filters and i can clean it in half the time? Also have you 'cut' any more glass yet? Thought i'd better mention that -as we have gone of topic somewhat.
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#33 Posted : 25 January 2010 23:08:48(UTC)
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Hehe, Nic, if you can think of anything interesting to be said on the subject of cutting glass that hasn't been said already I'd love to hear it!

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#34 Posted : 25 January 2010 23:50:35(UTC)

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No, not really, other then it gives me the heeby-jeebies!!

Just thought I'd share some of my obscure humor with you really.
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#35 Posted : 26 January 2010 19:21:39(UTC)
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ferox wrote:
It's my topic, I'll go off if I want to........

PMSL
And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high,saying "Oh Lord, bless this thine hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemys to tiny bits,in thy mercy" and the Lord did grin.And the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths,and carp and anchovies,and oranutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu......
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#36 Posted : 26 January 2010 20:10:43(UTC)
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don't know why but I had th image of you singing that to 'its my party and i'll cry if I want to'.........!
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#37 Posted : 26 January 2010 23:02:07(UTC)
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I was - - you got it.
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#38 Posted : 28 January 2010 19:50:44(UTC)
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Hi not sure yet what i'll be doing with the six footer - i maybe shutting this tank down altogether yet? Time will tell. Main reason would be because of a new shedd and know where to put the tank temporary?
Latest update 29/4/10 well only got four fish now - 2 syds and 2 B/Ns. All fish are equal.
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#39 Posted : 28 January 2010 19:59:18(UTC)
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you'd better get cracking on the new shedd then!
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#40 Posted : 27 March 2010 19:51:26(UTC)
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Hi had a very interesting chat yesterday about this subject {cutting glass}. He was saying that old glass goes slightly out of shape will become mishapen{is there such a word?}and britle so will be very difficult to cut therefore most glaziers will not cut 'old' glass for this very reason,as it will not cut true. Think this is your problem? Funnily enough the discussion was about old fish tanks being emptied and refilled after many years of usage,that was when we got talking about cutting glass..
Latest update 29/4/10 well only got four fish now - 2 syds and 2 B/Ns. All fish are equal.
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