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Latest post 3-26-2008 11:09 by fd1972uk. 16 replies.

  • 3-18-2008 20:04

    Poorly Clown fish: urgent.

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    (posting on behalf of wayne).

    One of our clown fish has developed a white mark next to but not connected to its dorsel fin. It was just like a scratch (as if it had caught itself on something), but today it has spread across both sides, almost like a sadle, but not very dense. I'm assuming it is fungal :( but what can we use to treat it, that won't harm the corals and other inverts we have in there. We don't have a hospital tank, tho LFS said we could just get a small tank, add tank water, heater and pump, and treat any fish for a couple of days no probs (this was prior to getting the fish and after my question about not having room for a third tank).

    Anyway, is melfix okay? And if it is, would plain ordinary Tea Tree work? I know that Tee tree has anti fungal properties, and that it is the main ingredient in melafix , so was wondering that since we can't get to the LFS tonight if it is safe to use?

    many thanks

    Nicky

    Tank1: 125L Tropical. 1 male betta, 4 scissortail rasboras, 3 neon tetras, 4 glowlight danios, 1 candy stripe loach, 1 female bristlenose, 6 amano shrimp.Tank 2: 65L Nano reef. 6kg live rock, 96w T5 lighting, 3 x turbo snails, 5 x red-legged hermits, 1 x peppermint shrimp, 1 small pistol shrimp (hitch-hiker), two percula clowns, 1 neon goby, 1 sun coral, 1 clove coral & 1 tree coral

  • 3-18-2008 20:14 In reply to

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    Is there any chance you can get a picture of the fish? In saltwater, it's unlikely to be a fungal infectionm as there are very few fungi that can tolerate the salt. It could however be a bacterial infection, but I wouldn't like to say with out seeing the fish first.  

  • 3-18-2008 20:27 In reply to

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    Will try to get a picture but my camera is not good enough to get a close enough picture in focus I think.

    Tank1: 125L Tropical. 1 male betta, 4 scissortail rasboras, 3 neon tetras, 4 glowlight danios, 1 candy stripe loach, 1 female bristlenose, 6 amano shrimp.Tank 2: 65L Nano reef. 6kg live rock, 96w T5 lighting, 3 x turbo snails, 5 x red-legged hermits, 1 x peppermint shrimp, 1 small pistol shrimp (hitch-hiker), two percula clowns, 1 neon goby, 1 sun coral, 1 clove coral & 1 tree coral

  • 3-18-2008 20:33 In reply to

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    Cool.

     

    To answer your other questions, yes, you can use tea tree oil, but, it needs to be emulsified in water first, which usually involves shaking it very well in a bottle. I wouldn't use it in the tank with your corals though. Methylin blue is also a good all round treatment, but, I definately wouldn't use it in your tank.  If you don't have the space for a hospital tank, you can just use a bucket filled with tank water with a heater in it and an air stone.

  • 3-18-2008 20:46 In reply to

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    Here is the best picture I can get.

    Tank1: 125L Tropical. 1 male betta, 4 scissortail rasboras, 3 neon tetras, 4 glowlight danios, 1 candy stripe loach, 1 female bristlenose, 6 amano shrimp.Tank 2: 65L Nano reef. 6kg live rock, 96w T5 lighting, 3 x turbo snails, 5 x red-legged hermits, 1 x peppermint shrimp, 1 small pistol shrimp (hitch-hiker), two percula clowns, 1 neon goby, 1 sun coral, 1 clove coral & 1 tree coral

  • 3-18-2008 20:55 In reply to

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    It could be a bacterial infection. I'd get him out of the tank and  treat him with the tea tree oil in a bucket.

  • 3-18-2008 21:04 In reply to

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    How long should it be left in the bucket for?

    Tank1: 125L Tropical. 1 male betta, 4 scissortail rasboras, 3 neon tetras, 4 glowlight danios, 1 candy stripe loach, 1 female bristlenose, 6 amano shrimp.Tank 2: 65L Nano reef. 6kg live rock, 96w T5 lighting, 3 x turbo snails, 5 x red-legged hermits, 1 x peppermint shrimp, 1 small pistol shrimp (hitch-hiker), two percula clowns, 1 neon goby, 1 sun coral, 1 clove coral & 1 tree coral

  • 3-18-2008 21:16 In reply to

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    Hi good luck with getting it sorted,all i can remember about marine clowns is that they are hard too treat because of the protective coating they have to protect them against the anemone stings!

    A question for nicola,how about a freshwater bath?

    Hi thought about time i updated this! Tank no 1 = 3 retic rays,1aro,2 ompuk cats,8 angels,1 syd greshoffi{19 years old},1 syd unkown,1 stripped dora,1 plec,1 silver dat,1 pim and a soribum lima! Tank no2 = 6 auralis barbs,2 needle gars,1 molly,1 dat microlepis,1 trye track eel and 8 bristlenoses! Tank no 3 = 2 goldfish{on holiday}1 flag tail thingy{over twenty years old},4 silver dats,1 pim and a plec!

  • 3-18-2008 21:31 In reply to

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    A freshwater bath may just be the thing. Put him in the bucket in fresh water for 3 minuates or so, but watch very closely for signs of stress. He won't like it, but if he stops breathing or goes belly up, whip him out. 

  • 3-18-2008 21:40 In reply to

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    Hi Wayne i would say go for it and do exactly as Nicola has said, do a freshwater bath {water same temp as aquarium}and watch him/her very closelyYes

    I just read the first post again Hi Nicky how are you? And what you done with Wayne2funny

    ps me and my mate came to visit you and my mate Philip had Waynes guppysYes

    Hi thought about time i updated this! Tank no 1 = 3 retic rays,1aro,2 ompuk cats,8 angels,1 syd greshoffi{19 years old},1 syd unkown,1 stripped dora,1 plec,1 silver dat,1 pim and a soribum lima! Tank no2 = 6 auralis barbs,2 needle gars,1 molly,1 dat microlepis,1 trye track eel and 8 bristlenoses! Tank no 3 = 2 goldfish{on holiday}1 flag tail thingy{over twenty years old},4 silver dats,1 pim and a plec!

  • 3-18-2008 22:14 In reply to

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    How safe is a freshwater bath? Sounds risky...  Is it supposed to kill the bacteria?

    James - It's Wayne again now!  Hope you and Phil are doing okay!!

    Wayne


    Tank1: 125L Tropical. 1 male betta, 4 scissortail rasboras, 3 neon tetras, 4 glowlight danios, 1 candy stripe loach, 1 female bristlenose, 6 amano shrimp.Tank 2: 65L Nano reef. 6kg live rock, 96w T5 lighting, 3 x turbo snails, 5 x red-legged hermits, 1 x peppermint shrimp, 1 small pistol shrimp (hitch-hiker), two percula clowns, 1 neon goby, 1 sun coral, 1 clove coral & 1 tree coral

  • 3-19-2008 12:56 In reply to

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    Nicky again>

    Fresh water bath done. Didn't seem terribly bothered by it, though he was a bit disorientated when he went back into the aquarium. He doesn't seem too impressed tho, and is not displaying his dorsel. He is pecking at the other clown tho, so is still dominant. The white mrks are still there, any ideas as to how quickly they go? At the moment he is lurking at the front of the tank, he has had a bite to eat (fed the sun coral), so is still eating.
    Have phoned the vets and waitng the the exotic specialist to call back so I can get some metronidazole for the tank. Will also try to pop out to the LSF to buy a small tank suitable as a quarantene.

    Tank1: 125L Tropical. 1 male betta, 4 scissortail rasboras, 3 neon tetras, 4 glowlight danios, 1 candy stripe loach, 1 female bristlenose, 6 amano shrimp.Tank 2: 65L Nano reef. 6kg live rock, 96w T5 lighting, 3 x turbo snails, 5 x red-legged hermits, 1 x peppermint shrimp, 1 small pistol shrimp (hitch-hiker), two percula clowns, 1 neon goby, 1 sun coral, 1 clove coral & 1 tree coral

  • 3-21-2008 22:32 In reply to

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    A quick update - the clown fish is looking much healthier - the white marks are almost completely gone.  It was upset by the freshwater bath, and for a day or so afterwards whenever Nicky looked for it in the tank it would hide in the rock... but it didn't hide from me lol!!  It still swims away from her.  Never known a fish to bear a grudge!

    Keeping our fingers crossed that it is on the mend!

    Wayne

    Tank1: 125L Tropical. 1 male betta, 4 scissortail rasboras, 3 neon tetras, 4 glowlight danios, 1 candy stripe loach, 1 female bristlenose, 6 amano shrimp.Tank 2: 65L Nano reef. 6kg live rock, 96w T5 lighting, 3 x turbo snails, 5 x red-legged hermits, 1 x peppermint shrimp, 1 small pistol shrimp (hitch-hiker), two percula clowns, 1 neon goby, 1 sun coral, 1 clove coral & 1 tree coral

  • 3-21-2008 22:37 In reply to

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     Glad the fresh water bath helped! Clown fish are funny little things aren't they? lol

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    fish have feeling and the stupid "3 second goldfish memory span" is CRAP!!!!!! Fish aint stupid, they know the hand that feeds them whether it's salty or not Wink

    Glad the fish is pulling round Smile 

    TANK 1. 1 BGK, Pair Gold Panchax, 1 Sailfin plec. Mopani wood + Fake silk plants. Substrate, sand + gravel. Ext filt.

    WEBCAM  TANK 2. 15 Copper Harlequins (Hengeli), 3 albino bristlenose (2 m + 1 f), 1 Lda031, 1 Male CT Betta, 2 Adolphi Cory's, 5 chain loach, 3 Albino Cory(1 highfin), 4 Axelrodi Cory, 15 pygmy cory's, 2 Hoplo Littorale, 12 Popondetta Furcata, 3 Bamboo Shrimp, 6 Amano shrimp & 1 misc long armed shrimp (possibly Indian). Plants, Sword, Bacopa Caroliniania, Vallis Nana, Rotala Wallichii & Cabomba, Driftwood. Susbtrate, sand + gravel. Ext filter.

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